[originally from nettime:::date: 29-Jun-99] From: Jim FlemingTo: kent@songbird.com Cc: kstubbs@corenic.org ; doug@skycache.com ; Theresa.Swinehart@wcom.com ; rus@neteze.com ; linda_wilson@radcliffe.edu ; Joe_Sims@jonesday.com ; Karl Auerbach ; jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com ; javier@aui.es ; erony@marin.k12.ca.us ; emaxwell@doc.gov ; edyson@edventure.com ; bburr@ntia.doc.gov ; heath@isoc.org ; love@cptech.org ; dont@netsol.com ; cook@cookreport.com ; amr@chaos.com ; richard@vrx.net Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 10:42 PM Subject: U.S. Government Funding, etc. >Kent, > >Are you still employed by the U.S. Government ? > >If I recall, back in the IAHC/CORE days, you listed your >affiliation as one of the big DOE/DOD research labs >in California. In the Chicago area, places like Argonne >and Fermi are known havens for people that do little all >day but play on the Internet. Have you seen that in your >area ? > >Continuing...have you ever considered how many people >in all of the various Internet Resource debates are either >paid directly by the U.S. Government or derive their income >from companies that are largely supported by the government ? > >Has it occurred to anyone that maybe people are concerned >that the average citizen (netizen) is not really represented because >these processes are dominated by government officials or people >who have worked for years to exploit the government for their >own personal gain ? > >Do people really want to live in a soviet-like society where >"the state" controls all of the critical means of production and the >essential resources and ordinary people are not allowed into "the party" ? > >In my opinion, that is where many of these ICANN/ISOC/IETF developments >appear to be heading. If you track almost all of the major power companies >and power people in these processes their pockets are lined with U.S. >Government money. I think it would be very interesting for all people in >these forums to disclose who pays them to participate day in and day out. >I have a feeling that the answer will mostly be, the U.S. Government. > >Given that is likely, I think the average netizen has to accept the fact >that >they will have little chance to influence the outcome of these debates. >As a U.S. citizen, it is sad to see my Government and its various paid >agents, steamroll the Internet. I hope that some day someone writes an >accurate history of how the next generation Internets came about, without >the "help" of the U.S. Government. > >In my opinion, people in Washington, D.C. should be ashamed of what they >have done in these proceedings. People trusted that the right thing would >be done. As we now see, we do not have less government we have more >government and it is getting worse, not better. I hope that eventually some >commercial companies stand up for capitalism and avoid the continued >movement toward the soviet-like society...that some call the Internet... > > >Jim Fleming